Does it seem like 10 years since your flight?

It seems like a short time, because so much has happened that in my view is extremely positive in the commercial human spaceflight domain.

 

Could you give some examples?

Shortly after I flew, Mark Shuttleworth flew. Then Greg Olsen and Anousheh Ansari โ€” a total of seven people and eight flights [Charles Simonyi flew twice]. The fact that weโ€™ve now done this eight times with seven people is one important accomplishment, because itโ€™s demonstrated that it isnโ€™t just one crazy guy that decided he wanted to fly in space. There are people that are willing to make big sacrifices โ€” financially, putting their lives on the line and taking the time to train in Russia.

I think the success of the [Ansari] X Prize, and Scaled Compositesโ€™ SpaceShipOne successfully flying suborbitally [in 2004], was a major accomplishment for a private company. And then the follow-on, with Virgin Galactic signing them up and funding the development of SpaceShipTwo. We will have suborbital commercial spaceflight, I think, within the next couple-three years at a price that people can afford. So thatโ€™s the second major accomplishment.

The third major accomplishment goes beyond anything Iโ€™ve seen done by one person since [Soviet aerospace engineer Sergei] Korolev or maybe Wernher von Braun โ€” what Elon Musk has done with SpaceX [Space Exploration Technologies Corp.]. Itโ€™s just absolutely incredible what he has accomplished so far. I think this is one man that weโ€™ll look back upon as being one of the greatest space entrepreneurs of all time.

Flying the Falcon 9 with the Dragon space capsule and successfully re-entering it โ€” heโ€™s well on the way to not only developing a cargo ship, which is almost there, but a manned craft, and that will be really our next method, other than calling upon the Russians, to transport people to space.

And the fourth [accomplishment] is politically what has been done at NASA and the administration in terms of changing the whole nature of procurement, and the way theyโ€™re supporting commercial human spaceflight. I think this is probably the biggest fundamental change in NASA philosophy and government policy with regard to space in many, many decades, if not from inception. Itโ€™s just mind-boggling.

I look back at those accomplishments more than I even look at my own flight as an accomplishment, because it just happened to coincide with this 10-year period.

 

Do you see orbital spaceflight opening up to a lot more people in the next few decades?

I definitely do. And I think itโ€™s going to be much bigger than most people predict.

I think that weโ€™re going to see the costs, in todayโ€™s dollars, of sending an individual to space for a week or whatever reduced by a major, major amount. Right now, I think itโ€™s about $50 million. It could be a million or two if we get some reusability in orbital spacecraft.

Youโ€™ve had close to 10 people pay large amounts of money. There arenโ€™t that many people who are worth $50 million. Now, if you lower this down to a million or two โ€” there are actually millions of people in the United States who are worth a million dollars.

 

Do you think itโ€™s feasible to see the price come down that much in 10 years or so?

Yes. But I may be off in time a little. I think itโ€™ll eventually get down to that price in todayโ€™s dollars. It could happen within 10 years. But I think it will happen within 10 to 20 years. And if Iโ€™m wrong, itโ€™ll be $5 million โ€” we wonโ€™t quite be there yet. But I think youโ€™re going to see a lot of people flying in 2021.

It is exciting. Because as human beings, we need new challenges. And the history of our species is that, for millions of years, weโ€™ve been migrating. We started in Africa, and weโ€™ve been migrating in waves around the world. Thatโ€™s a natural part of survival.

And weโ€™re going to migrate to Mars and maybe other habitats. Weโ€™re going to set up colonies. Itโ€™s so ingrained in our behavior as humans to explore, and to expand and to migrate. Weโ€™re wired that way, and thatโ€™s why itโ€™s so satisfying.

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